By Anita Malhotra
Releasing his first album in 2003, Watson won the Polaris Music Prize in 2007 for his second album, Close to Paradise, and went on to release Wooden Arms (2009), Adventures in Your Own Backyard (2012) and Love Songs for Robots (Bunny Face with Pink bluee and Purple Watercolor Flowers Easter Birthday Party Invitations for Girls, 20 5 x7 Fill in Cards with Twenty White Envelopes by AmandaCreation).
Several of his songs have been featured in movies as well as in TV shows like Grey’s Anatomy, The Walking Dead, and Orange is the New Black.
Watson is also a soundtrack composer and recently created the sound and music for Gymnasia, a haunting virtual reality piece co-produced by the National Film Board and Felix & Paul Studios, and directed by animators Trademark Fine Art IC01723C1419GG T Painting by Typelike, 14x19, MultipleChris Lavis and Maciek Szczerbowski (aka Clyde Henry Productions).
Anita Malhotra spoke with Patrick Watson by phone on June 11, 2019 about his work on Gymnasia, his approach to music and his current projects.Mario Girls Dress Costume Large
AM: How did you get involved with doing the music and sound for Gymnasia?
PW: Chris and Maciek work for Clyde Henry Productions and I usually do all the music for their films. We got involved in VR because Felix & Paul Studios had asked Chris and Maciek to test out a camera of theirs – to do a little short.
We did this very humble video of me playing in my studio. In the initial test they noticed that a certain type of simplicity was really crucial. The whole thing is meant to feel like you’re sitting there, and at one point I look at you.Sakar Hello Kitty 68109 CD Karaoke System with Screen, Pink White If it’s done well, the effect of being alone with someone in VR is a strange experience, even before you start adding any kind of fancy stuff.
A lot of the other VR projects were more geared towards being kind of fancy, like you’re in a weird world on a roller coaster. Because this one was so simple, it seemed to have had a large effect on people. So that demo we made, Strangers, Stupell Industries Home Como te Llama Funny Spanish Typography Stretched Canvas Wall Art, Multicolorended up circling the globe and became this kind of go-to video to show people the potential of VR.
Because of that, Felix & Paul asked us to do another one together. So Chris and Maciek decided to make something that was a bit of a childhood dream. It’s still not trying to sell the viewer with too much info.Generic 1 32 Japan FT1 Alloy Pull Back Diecast Metal Diecast Model Toys for Kids Gift Black The space is really well made and you really feel like you’re sitting there. There are not too many bells and whistles.
We made a plot line that was very surreal and not trying to be a giant narration. I feel like it’s a very good approach for VR, because I feel like VR is closer to photo than film.Baby Blanket Butterflies,Various Flying Butterflies with Fairy colors Hippie Style Print Magical Decor,Pink Purple Throw Rug Sofa Bedding W54 x L84 inch
AM: How did you go about capturing the mood of the visuals in Gymnasia?
PW: I started with the sound.Malko Funko Pop Predector Case for 4Inches Vinyl Figures (10 Pack) I think it’s crucially VR sound first, and music only if you need it. Because unless the music is integrated in the space, it tells your brain you’re not there.
VR doesn’t work the same as film, because when you watch a film you’ve already decided that you’re going to lose yourself in the environment. But with VR you’re supposed to be there.
So VR music is very tricky actually. Ladybugs,Super Soft Lightweight Blanket,Summer Season Inspired Sun Pattern Bugs Animal Imagery Cartoon Characters 60 x50 ,Super Soft and Comfortable,Suitable for Sofas,Chairs,bedsThe sound really decides the tone more than the music. My approach with music is, “This is the place that, if I put music there, it’s not going to ruin it.” It’s not how do I make it better; it’s how do I not ruin it.FT300 46260010 Valve Assembly (Japan import The package and the manual are written in Japanese)
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Ambience is very complicated in VR because when you’re in a room your ears tell you how big the room is – not your eyes. Proximity effect in VR is super sensitive.
AM: You wrote a beautiful choir song for Gymnasia. Zfy Outdoor Riding shoulder bag mountaineering bag travelCan you tell me a bit about that?
PW: The song is integrated into the space. We wanted a haunting lullaby for children. That kind of stuff is easy to write because I’ve got kids.Magic and Games Festival Iron Arm Costume (R124) It’s an easy universe to get into. That’s why a little more of my energy was put to the spatialization, because the music was very obvious.
The basketballs were a bit more complex. We knew we needed music inside that, but once again I didn’t want to ruin it, Anthony Martial Signed 16x12 Photo Man Utd Autograph Memorabilia Display COAso we started off with sound.
We actually put a mike in the gym and gave 20 people basketballs and played out the actual scene with the spatialization.Animal Play Cups by The Original Toy Company It would sound so fake if you tried to redo it yourself any other way.
And then, from there, I just accentuated music. The music is actually integrated inside the project not as music, but more as sound design. When I threw the strings in the back to give it a little bit of a dramatic tone, it wasn’t too jarring. And all the weird synth modular stuff that I put in there is pretty wild and integrates very nicely.
AM: What is it like to work with Chris and Maciek?
PW: There’s nothing more fun than working with Chris and Maciek. They’re like a dream. Both of them are really talented in very different ways. Tamiya 37011 1 48 Hawker Hurricane Mk.I w 3 Figures (japan import)It’s like a two-headed dragon with two totally different personalities.
We talk a lot about the projects way before we start making them and we have a pretty respectful relationship in terms trusting each other’s instincts.Dr. Seuss Horton Hears A Who 12 Plush Elephant
If something passes our three different kinds of filters, generally it’s got to be something very good. At the same time I know it’s their film.Lowepro DroneGuard CS 200 Case for Quadcopter Drone Black The director always has to be the director.
I met them after they did their first film that went to the Oscars – Junior Learning Touchtronic Letter Kit with 3 Learning Games and 260 Interactive Letters for iPad. I begged them at that time to do their music, and then years later they finally connected with me.
AM: Do you have any other projects coming up with them?
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AM: When do you like to write your music and do you have an ideal place to write it?
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The only thing I worry about is to write and write well. It’s just like a muscle. It’s not a God-given gift that you’re creative.(90pcs, Royal bluee) RUBYCA Mix Royal bluee Murano Lampwork Glass Bead Rondelle European Charm Bracelet Silver Colour 90pcs Some people naturally have more of a creative inclination than others, but the only reason they’re so gifted is that they worked like a monster on it and are constantly flexing that muscle.
Every day I’m flexing that muscle. There’s always something to write, there’s always something to learn, and there’s always work to be done. Yuan Sculpture CraftsEuropean Sleeping Position Beauty Decoration Ornaments Sculpture Birthday Gift Home Multifunction Crafts Decoration Ornaments &There’s no real excuse not to. I mean, there are millions of people who would love to have my job. If you’re in music or the arts, you can never take that for granted – you can never get lazy.
AM: What are your first memories of being involved in music?Revoltech No.122 voxaura [ Japan Import ]
PW: I grew up singing in a choir at a pretty young age. I grew up in a really small town. There were no cool bands.PineCar Derby Racers Canopy & Cockpit Set by Pinecar From a very young age I sang at funerals and weddings, and big moments in people’s lives.
I am proud to make music for these kinds of moments in people’s lives and I probably still do that, but in a habitual form.
AM: What was your connection with the audience like when you were younger?45pcs Electric Racing Car Kids Train Track Models Toy Baby Railway Track Racing Road Transportation Building Slot Sets 2 colors Grey with 1 car
PW: The thing about singing in a choir is they’re not your audience and you’re not on stage performing. Hess Wooden Toddler Toy Lucie Tooth Brush Holder with TimerThe music is the performer and you are part of the instruments. It’s a very different perspective than someone going on stage and singing a song about themselves.
I still keep that kind of intention when I get on stage.Busch 45591 Heating Plant HO Scale Model Structure I generally like the idea of letting music do what it does best. I find music more interesting than me, to be honest. Of course I’m part of the process, but a very humbling part.
When I watched James Brown when we toured with him, he had a very large level of humility when it came to music, Diy oil painting, paint by number kit Cheetah 1620 inch Frameless. by DIY Paintingand he would do giant prayers before getting on stage.
He seemed like the most pompous person in the world from his interviews, but when he got on stage he was actually very humble. The Muppets Most Wanted Exclusive 17 Inch Plush Figure ConstantineHe knew how to listen to the room and the music and not to himself. He was basically a slave to the room and the sound and the vibe.
AM: What were your early experiences with the piano?DC Comics Superman Logo Card Case
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AM: Can you describe your relationship with the piano?
PW: It was kind of interesting how I looked at the piano. I guess as a kid I thought the piano was a ghost. He would just do all the work for me and I would just hang out with him. I didn’t grow up in a city – I grew up in a pretty small town, Dinosaur Building Block Toy Playset Jigsaw Puzzle Insert DIY Building Blocks for Kids Boys Girls Educational Toy (40 Grain)you know. You get pretty romantic ideas in a very small town, so I didn’t know much better. I guess the piano was just like the ghost and then he wrote music for me, For ps3 Controller Analog Original alps 3D Rocker 4 pin 20pcs a lotand I thought that was cool.
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People mistake these things as hobbies because they like to play the piano or they like to play an instrument.PlayDoh Party Bag Dough 15 Count (Assorted colors) I don’t think anybody plays four or five hours in the middle of the night unless they need it to try and get through whatever they’ve got to do.
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Creativity is absolutely the most primal and most important survival tool you could have. I feel the people I’ve met who are really creative it’s generally a survival instinct.Single Source Party Suppies 37 Chain of Hearts Purple Shape Mylar Foil Balloon It’s because they couldn’t cope and they just had to build worlds to cope.
AM: You have a concert coming up in Lyon with the Orchestre National de Lyon. What music will you be doing at that concert?Repos Production Macarade Base Game and Expansion Bundle
PW: It’s a mixture more of the older records than the new ones because the older records reallyDisney anime Magical Pod only magical pad soft Nemo and Dory translate well to orchestra. They’re closer to classical music in the mood.
AM: How is playing with an orchestra different from playing just with your band?
PW: Playing with an orchestra is the best. Nothing beats it. It’s totally overwhelming. It’s also very technical difficult, but it’s amazing. Kamen Rider Wizard DX Soft Vinyl Figure deformed whole set of 2 (japan import)In classical music the downbeats are different because the conductor goes down and everybody reacts, so there’s flab to the “one.” In pop music the “one” is very, very definite.
AM: When is your next album coming out and what is it like?Cottage Garden Grandma Wavy Woodgrain Digital Music Box Jewelry Box Plays How Great Thou Art
PW: It comes out in October. To be honest, this album is very particular because it was a very particular three years.Disney Doc Mcstuffins Sharing is Caring Playland with 50 Balls
At one point I thought there was going to be a lot of production, but when I started the record, I started to make something as bare as possible and very intimate. Just kind of really sincere. I also wanted songs so strong and well-written that the production wouldn’t save them. I could do them upside-down and they would still work.Ceaco Oceans Tropical Island Waters Puzzle by Ceaco
Lyrically, the voice is very different – it’s very low, Cottage Garden Like Eagles Woodgrain Music Box Jewelry Box Plays On Eagles Wingsit’s not oversung. The lyrics have a much bigger place than normal than the other records.
It was just such a particular three years. My life fell apart so I had to rebuild everything over three years. NoMonet Hand Painted Artisan Earrings Bee Mine Earrings in Silver, Black and GreenSo the album’s obviously a lot about that, whether I like it or not. It’s hard for it not to be when you’re going through that process.
AM: Aside from the Lyon concert, what are you doing now? Star Wars Lightsaber Tool Kit (set of 3 ScrewdriversAre you working on your next album?
PW: I had started to work on it, but then I got a contract. I’m doing the music for the play Elephant Man in Paris. I will be writing the music during the summer.
AM: Aside from music and your family, do you have any other major interests?
PW: Reading is becoming a huge part of my life. I’ve been a terrible reader since I was a kid. It would take me a year to read a book. Lais Jigsaw Pines thicket forest 2000 piecesSo I just never had that much access to literature because of that. And now I’m spending all my time catching up on everything I should have read 20 years ago.
Right now I’m reading The Lover by Marguerite Duras and Good Morning, Midnight by Jean Rhys. I try to read a book a week.Soviet Paint Set War Games by 247 Toys The last book I read was amazing – Franny and Zooey by J. D. Salinger and it was so good!
Patrick Watson will perform with the Orchestre National de Lyon at the Théâtre Antique de Lyon on July 8, 2019. For more information about Patrick Watson, visit patrickwatson.net.
Gymnasia can be viewed at the Phi Centre in Montreal until Sept. 15, 2019 as part of the immersive art exhibit HUM(AI)N. It can also be downloaded as an app from the Oculus Store. For more information on Gymnasia, visit Ferrari Laferrari F70 Red 1 24 by Bburago 26001 or the [Rilakkuma] B6SP notes Heart Bath time series.